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		<title>By: ALLEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALLEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.situp-cycle.com/2010/04/17/its-all-happening/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 03:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is great to see the change rules for e-Bikes.  It will give e-Bikes a chance to succeed down here.

I believe that e-Bike have a place, but they need to be marketed as a replacement to a moped or a second car.  Otherwise they seem too expensive for a bicycle.  Also, they need good capacity to carry things so that they can be used for small shopping trips.

As volumes go up and technology gets better, price will come down.  It may be a few years before we can buy an e-bike with a long-lasting battery below $1,000 though.

It&#039;s a shame that the RTA wants to legislate against the throttle.  That&#039;s silly.  The throttle is very intuitive for many people.  Still, they mostly got it right.  The worst thing about it tought is that will keep some bikes away from the market, potentially keeping prices higher.  We would be better off without such silly rules.  

Sometimes I wonder whether they consider the full consequences of their legislation, especially the negative side effects.  I have seen far too often legislation that caused far more damage than delivered benefits.  Such legislation is not only a waste of time &amp; money, it is also damaging the respect for the rule of law.  People ignore it and lose respect for the law.

There really should be an independent body that assesses new legislation and only lets it through if its demonstrated benefits are greater than its negative side effects and the cost of drafting and enforcing the legislation.  That would prevent a lot of costly mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is great to see the change rules for e-Bikes.  It will give e-Bikes a chance to succeed down here.</p>
<p>I believe that e-Bike have a place, but they need to be marketed as a replacement to a moped or a second car.  Otherwise they seem too expensive for a bicycle.  Also, they need good capacity to carry things so that they can be used for small shopping trips.</p>
<p>As volumes go up and technology gets better, price will come down.  It may be a few years before we can buy an e-bike with a long-lasting battery below $1,000 though.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that the RTA wants to legislate against the throttle.  That&#8217;s silly.  The throttle is very intuitive for many people.  Still, they mostly got it right.  The worst thing about it tought is that will keep some bikes away from the market, potentially keeping prices higher.  We would be better off without such silly rules.  </p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder whether they consider the full consequences of their legislation, especially the negative side effects.  I have seen far too often legislation that caused far more damage than delivered benefits.  Such legislation is not only a waste of time &amp; money, it is also damaging the respect for the rule of law.  People ignore it and lose respect for the law.</p>
<p>There really should be an independent body that assesses new legislation and only lets it through if its demonstrated benefits are greater than its negative side effects and the cost of drafting and enforcing the legislation.  That would prevent a lot of costly mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.situp-cycle.com/2010/04/17/its-all-happening/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i&#039;m halfway through my second week of commuting on my e-bike (although I&#039;ve been riding pretty solidly for a month) and I&#039;m really getting into it.  I&#039;m switching away from the mode of getting on the bus to finding my own way home.  We have made child care arrangements accordingly, and I&#039;m going to work early and leaving early and picking the kids up from school a couple of days a week, which is saving us lots of money.  This hasn&#039;t been possible in the past as public transport in Brisbane just can&#039;t be relied on, and doesn&#039;t run at the times we need.

More importantly I&#039;m really getting into it.  I&#039;m enjoying the trip in and home (it was hard at first) and also importantly despite all the criticism of electric bikes my fitness is improving rapidly.  I&#039;m hungry all the time and I&#039;ve lots 2.5 kg in a couple of weeks.  This is going to lead to a massive health benefit for me.  I&#039;m kicking myself for not doing it sooner.

I have been so impressed by the health benefits that I&#039;m working with the wife to take the kids to school in a trailer (they are 6 and 3) behind an e-bike.  As parents we find it impossible to get any exercise together.  The kids can ride, but they are slow to a point where you don&#039;t get any exercise yourself, and at any rate this is only once a week.  By integrating this into her daily routine she could get all these benefits too.  She would have to ride probably 10k twice a day.

So, we will be in the market for another e-bike or two soon.  To all those that doubt e-bikes - shame on you!  While I understand that many are so fit they don&#039;t need them, for many people that live in HOT and HILLY areas like myself they really open up bicycles as an option.

These things are a life changer.  Change the world, one less car at a time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i&#8217;m halfway through my second week of commuting on my e-bike (although I&#8217;ve been riding pretty solidly for a month) and I&#8217;m really getting into it.  I&#8217;m switching away from the mode of getting on the bus to finding my own way home.  We have made child care arrangements accordingly, and I&#8217;m going to work early and leaving early and picking the kids up from school a couple of days a week, which is saving us lots of money.  This hasn&#8217;t been possible in the past as public transport in Brisbane just can&#8217;t be relied on, and doesn&#8217;t run at the times we need.</p>
<p>More importantly I&#8217;m really getting into it.  I&#8217;m enjoying the trip in and home (it was hard at first) and also importantly despite all the criticism of electric bikes my fitness is improving rapidly.  I&#8217;m hungry all the time and I&#8217;ve lots 2.5 kg in a couple of weeks.  This is going to lead to a massive health benefit for me.  I&#8217;m kicking myself for not doing it sooner.</p>
<p>I have been so impressed by the health benefits that I&#8217;m working with the wife to take the kids to school in a trailer (they are 6 and 3) behind an e-bike.  As parents we find it impossible to get any exercise together.  The kids can ride, but they are slow to a point where you don&#8217;t get any exercise yourself, and at any rate this is only once a week.  By integrating this into her daily routine she could get all these benefits too.  She would have to ride probably 10k twice a day.</p>
<p>So, we will be in the market for another e-bike or two soon.  To all those that doubt e-bikes &#8211; shame on you!  While I understand that many are so fit they don&#8217;t need them, for many people that live in HOT and HILLY areas like myself they really open up bicycles as an option.</p>
<p>These things are a life changer.  Change the world, one less car at a time!</p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you oversell the influence of pro-cycling policy in the UK elections. The Guardian bike blog has a nice run down here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/14/general-election-cyclist-pledges&quot; / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;. In summary none of the 3 main parties give it a reasonable mention in their manifestos.

As for the future success of e-bikes in Australia if the rules are brought into line with the EU... Like a lot of things, it will come down to the level and type of marketing they receive. Living in the EU (Gloucester, England), I can say that we haven&#039;t been overrun with cyclists riding sit-up e-bikes, in fact, I&#039;ve never seen an e-bike in the city, although I do see a bit of utility cycling.

I think there is a risk that people seeing the high price tag on the better models will either not purchase one or worse yet, purchase a poorly made model. If I was given the job of marketing e-bikes, I&#039;d probably pick a few of the best models and hire them out at about $10/day + damage deposit so people could see that this could be a reasonable alternative to a second car or public transport, without taking the plunge and buying an e-bike costing more than an old second hand car (the latter being a false economy of course, but the comparison is inevitable for many people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you oversell the influence of pro-cycling policy in the UK elections. The Guardian bike blog has a nice run down here: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/14/general-election-cyclist-pledges" / rel="nofollow">. In summary none of the 3 main parties give it a reasonable mention in their manifestos.</p>
<p>As for the future success of e-bikes in Australia if the rules are brought into line with the EU&#8230; Like a lot of things, it will come down to the level and type of marketing they receive. Living in the EU (Gloucester, England), I can say that we haven&#8217;t been overrun with cyclists riding sit-up e-bikes, in fact, I&#8217;ve never seen an e-bike in the city, although I do see a bit of utility cycling.</p>
<p>I think there is a risk that people seeing the high price tag on the better models will either not purchase one or worse yet, purchase a poorly made model. If I was given the job of marketing e-bikes, I&#8217;d probably pick a few of the best models and hire them out at about $10/day + damage deposit so people could see that this could be a reasonable alternative to a second car or public transport, without taking the plunge and buying an e-bike costing more than an old second hand car (the latter being a false economy of course, but the comparison is inevitable for many people).</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
		<link>http://www.situp-cycle.com/2010/04/17/its-all-happening/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 06:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul van Bellen makes a good point about the electric bike shops being a major factor in how quickly e-bikes spread in Sydney and Australia. The benefits are clearly there and people coming into my shop are very interested in making the purchase and putting quality product out there with good advice is as important as marketing the benefits to the wider public.

As with most technologies, the early adopters will buy the e-bikes and their positive experiences will encourage the wider community to ditch the car and try an electric bicycle too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul van Bellen makes a good point about the electric bike shops being a major factor in how quickly e-bikes spread in Sydney and Australia. The benefits are clearly there and people coming into my shop are very interested in making the purchase and putting quality product out there with good advice is as important as marketing the benefits to the wider public.</p>
<p>As with most technologies, the early adopters will buy the e-bikes and their positive experiences will encourage the wider community to ditch the car and try an electric bicycle too.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul van Bellen</title>
		<link>http://www.situp-cycle.com/2010/04/17/its-all-happening/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul van Bellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,

Couldn&#039;t agree more that E-bikes are the future for people who want to travel on bikes in comfort, ease and style.

As to the time frame for when they will dominate is an interesting question. I think a lot of that answer will come down to bike shops and how quickly they embrace E-Bikes and learn to properly train themselves and promote the benefits to customers.

Having said that, I think 5 years is a good time frame for your prediction!

Cycle safe,

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more that E-bikes are the future for people who want to travel on bikes in comfort, ease and style.</p>
<p>As to the time frame for when they will dominate is an interesting question. I think a lot of that answer will come down to bike shops and how quickly they embrace E-Bikes and learn to properly train themselves and promote the benefits to customers.</p>
<p>Having said that, I think 5 years is a good time frame for your prediction!</p>
<p>Cycle safe,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Paul Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Paul Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I also think that these e-bikes will help get people out of their cars here in Australia.

In defence of David Hembrow, I think there are places where e-bikes in great numbers don&#039;t make a lot of sense, but Australia isn&#039;t one of them.

As an example, I&#039;ve noticed that on my journey to work there are many hills &amp; troughs (mostly gradients of between 7-10%) and unfortunately, due to poor cycling infrastructure and priority to cars, I have to often stop at the valleys of these hills to give way to cars at crossings. I am not able to cycle quickly downhill to gather speed to conquer most of the following hill. In this situation my e-bike is very helpful.

Also, in the heat &amp; humidity of our summer the e-bike enables me to drop back a notch and arrive not-too-sweaty but in a reasonable time so I&#039;m not sunburnt to a crisp.

The Gazelle that I have is a pedelec, with no throttle, but it is very, very intuitive. If the assistance is turned on, and you pedal, it sends power to the motor. You stop pedalling, the motor stops. It is idiot-proof really.

I like your idea of jacking up the price of fuel - the truth is that, here in Australia, we don&#039;t really pay the true cost of things; we&#039;ve become accustomed to using cheap energy with little thought.

I&#039;m glad these regulations are being looked at and I hope the planets align for your filming this coming Friday, Mike.

All the very best.

Paul Martin
Brisbane, Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I also think that these e-bikes will help get people out of their cars here in Australia.</p>
<p>In defence of David Hembrow, I think there are places where e-bikes in great numbers don&#8217;t make a lot of sense, but Australia isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
<p>As an example, I&#8217;ve noticed that on my journey to work there are many hills &amp; troughs (mostly gradients of between 7-10%) and unfortunately, due to poor cycling infrastructure and priority to cars, I have to often stop at the valleys of these hills to give way to cars at crossings. I am not able to cycle quickly downhill to gather speed to conquer most of the following hill. In this situation my e-bike is very helpful.</p>
<p>Also, in the heat &amp; humidity of our summer the e-bike enables me to drop back a notch and arrive not-too-sweaty but in a reasonable time so I&#8217;m not sunburnt to a crisp.</p>
<p>The Gazelle that I have is a pedelec, with no throttle, but it is very, very intuitive. If the assistance is turned on, and you pedal, it sends power to the motor. You stop pedalling, the motor stops. It is idiot-proof really.</p>
<p>I like your idea of jacking up the price of fuel &#8211; the truth is that, here in Australia, we don&#8217;t really pay the true cost of things; we&#8217;ve become accustomed to using cheap energy with little thought.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad these regulations are being looked at and I hope the planets align for your filming this coming Friday, Mike.</p>
<p>All the very best.</p>
<p>Paul Martin<br />
Brisbane, Australia</p>
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